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if you have a test map I can test it with AMD on Linux

Looking nice, things i noticed on my indoor level which I tested it on.

 

Anything with Trigger collision disappeared.

 

I couldnt see the water when I ran my demo unless I had added a new light or altererd a light setting of a current light.

 

I have a camera parented to my player through the editor, when I turned the reflections turned with me. So if I turned 90 or 180 and walked I could still see the same reflections but getting further away.

Looks great. Tested with the terrain scene- in debug mode everything is fine. In release terrain and skybox are missing, only the water plane is visible (project was updated). The alpha colour value does not change the transparency (should it?).

 

[update] In release everything is black only if the water is visible, as soon as the water plane is culled away visuals are back to normal.

Cant for the life of me figure out how to add the water to a project - have a water shader and a whole pile of water normal maps.

Its under the Root object in the Scene tab (along with other general map settings, skybox etc.)

Thanks Olby!

 

Sadly it didn't work so well

 

Updated, try now.

Anything with Trigger collision still disappears.

Camera reflection issue is till there.

Also colours get altererd from lights as in this clip, ignore the red on the columns.

Weird things are happening. . . . My scene is totally black until i turn on the FPS (F11) counter. Then i can see the water and it looks good from a distance but when getting closer to trees that have roots below thew terrain, they are shadowed into the scene above the water plane. :/ Isnt there a way to not have just one huge plane? Like adding the shader to a CSG to make lakes, ponds and such?

 

 

I will need your project to debug this further tomorrow.

 

From what I see above it appears you do not have the new modified shaders but I can't be sure yet.

I am in the beta (because I can't revert to the default branch) and after this update my terrain textures look extremely blurry and my fps dropped from 30 to 10. I am not using the water so something else in this update has caused my performance to drop immensely.

Also if the water worked by attaching a water shader to CSG it would be much more useful; the current system is only useful for oceans/groundwater.

 

--edit It seems there is a new terrain_lowres.shader that is being used for whatever reason, I am guessing that is the cause of my issues. What is that shader for?

Do you want a published version or the entire project or maybe just the shaders that were installed? Im sure you recall that Im the Dumb Dumb that cant keep a clean project folder so its probably pretty large. Uploading it to my drop box shouldn't be an issue but will take some time if thats what you want. Tonight, when I first opened the editor, there was an update, then I seen your post about fixing something while I was looking at the command reference in an attempt to learn something new and decided to relaunch the editor and another update was downloaded. If I recall correctly, somethign like 192 files were updated :/

I get an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION followed by a crash when I check Water Mode. I get this message as well when I boot up Leadwerks (not a new problem though), but it doesn't crash then. I'll look into it a little more later.

Crashes for me.. the latest beta downloaded, and I updated my project and received a message about 144 files being updated.. I turned on water, in the scene tab, and immediate segmentation fault.

 

I restarted, tried setting a level > 0.0 to see if somehow that was an issue, and could see the water in the editor viewport, but when i run the game, no water is displayed.

 

When i saved the scene with water on, and restarted Leadwerks, immediate segfault.

 

So yeah, not working so well for me either at the moment....

 

More Info:

 

When I run my standalone application binary in the Project Folder, I do see water and everything seems to work OK (which is cool), however my scene now immediately crashes the Leadwerks editor on load, and launching the game from the editor did not show the water (before the crash-on-load made it impossible to get that far)

 

 

 

and More Info:

 

When i started with a blank scene (by commenting out the current project line in Leadwerks.cfg), and created a new scene with just the water, a box and a camera, everything worked. When i subsequently loaded my main map (which crashed before) it worked.

 

When i quit Leadwerks and restarted, it crashed. So something is not being initialised correctly when a map that contains water is loaded, but it is correctly initialised when an empty map is loaded and water is added.

 

Running the executable directly works fine.

 

Also, water screenshot in the Showcase section - it is looking pretty damn good ! Nice work Josh.

I have same problem as Imchasinyou - scene is all black (except under water) until I press F11 to show fps. This is on a new blank map with just terrain and player.

 

Setting water mode to false and it seems to display ok again except without the water of course.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qn8k42d8v5r9wyt/waterbug.jpg?dl=0

 

Edit: also tested with no terrain and just one box instead to stand on - same problem.

At this time there are no water quality settings, though the renderer uses the lowest possible quality in the reflection pass.

 

Perhaps like :

World::SetWaterQuality(int levelQuality)

0 - sky only reflected

1 - sky and terrain

2 - all around

 

LE3 is getting water

SetWaterQuality(int levelQuality) should set the reflection resolution instead. Current reflections are a bit too low and stick out of the rest.

SetWaterQuality(int levelQuality) should set the reflection resolution instead. Current reflections are a bit too low and stick out of the rest.

 

Just do a quick blur - water reflections aren't meant to be razer sharp anyway

SetWaterQuality(int levelQuality) should set the reflection resolution instead. Current reflections are a bit too low and stick out of the rest.

Perhaps, but we need a function to control what we want to reflect like in game options.

Just do a quick blur - water reflections aren't meant to be razer sharp anyway

 

That's the opposite of what I want. There should be controls of how detailed the water plane is, just like in any other game. And I agree with YG control over whats reflected could be nice as well. With sharp reflections we can turn water into ice (by putting a transparent CSG over the water to stop buyouncy). Insta-ice.

 

In the clip I showed above the colours correct themselves when I press F11.

 

Also Bult a new map, if you attach a camera to a pivot that is when the water reflections go wrong. Can upload the map on that one if needed, but its a simple one to replicate.

I have same problem as Imchasinyou - scene is all black (except under water) until I press F11 to show fps. This is on a new blank map with just terrain and player.

 

Setting water mode to false and it seems to display ok again except without the water of course.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qn8k42d8v5r9wyt/waterbug.jpg?dl=0

 

Edit: also tested with no terrain and just one box instead to stand on - same problem.

 

Quick workaround:

In App.lua add after self.world:Render()

 

self.context:SetColor(1,1,1,1)

That's the opposite of what I want. There should be controls of how detailed the water plane is, just like in any other game. And I agree with YG control over whats reflected could be nice as well. With sharp reflections we can turn water into ice (by putting a transparent CSG over the water to stop buyouncy). Insta-ice.

 

While that looks lovely real ice looks noting like that - it is in fact a very uneven surface with lots of scattering

self.context:SetColor(1,1,1,1)

 

Sorts out the Colour problem I was having, thanks.

While that looks lovely real ice looks noting like that - it is in fact a very uneven surface with lots of scattering

 

https://usatunofficial.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/img_00642.jpg