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[Josh]

If you sync your installation, there's a small update.

 

-Fixed spotlight shadow update bug.

-Editor class tree no longer expanded automatically.

-Double-clicking on object in editor opens properties.

-Ctrl key + right click in editor duplicates selection and positions it at the picked position.

-Ctrl key + left click in editor positions selection at the picked position.

-Double-click on object in editor opens the properties editor.

[franck22000]

Very very nice improvements for the editor, nice to see that you are listening the community so well B) Thanks a lot !

[afecelis]

I have to agree. Thanks for your time and dedication Josh. B)

[Marleys Ghost]

Editor class tree no longer expanded automatically.

 

 

B)

[Niosop]

See, it's stuff like this that makes me glad to be using LE B) Frequent updates that address things that we ask for. Thanks Josh!

[AggrorJorn]

See, it's stuff like this that makes me glad to be using LE B) Frequent updates that address things that we ask for. Thanks Josh!

Totaly agree on that. It keeps the engine and the community fresh and sharpened for more.

 

Nice updates Josh. What a relief that the class scripts don't expand anymore everytime you exit the game modus or load a project.

Also the copying and opening the properties functions are very nice. It is small things like this that fine tune this engine to a great engine.

[gordonramp]

I don't seem to be able to find update 2.31 in my online SDK area.. is it somewhere else? Thanks.

[macklebee]

Downloads

[cassius]

Did the update but can't see any difference. Am I missing something.?

I think it was 2 files updated.

[Michael Betke]

Yes, often small things improve workflow a lot. Now it's a charm using copy/paste on models and relocate the copies with one clik.

Really well done.

[Pixel Perfect]

A big thankyou ... this is a great improvement

[Niosop]

Hmm, the ctrl + right/left click functions don't seem to be working for me. Any stupid mistakes I might be making?

[macklebee]

try CTRL+SHIFT+Right/Left-click.. at least thats what is working for me... that and you need a terrain

[macklebee]

Was there something else that was changed in this update? something in the lua framework? The CCTV object that MG and I created drops the fps down to single digits now when its activated in the editor or in a standalone lua program. But when loaded from a sbx into a bmax program it works fine. It appears to be an issue with lua's fw.Render()...

[Niosop]

Are you using the new SSDO shader in the Editor and not in bmax?

[macklebee]

no... ssao/ssdo is not selected.

[Marleys Ghost]

Its also effecting a C++ app using the CCTV object.

[Josh]

The only thing I can think of is that the renderer uses the current buffer instead of the back buffer to see if the rendering dimensions have changed. if Render() is called when the current buffer does not match the dimensions of the stored dimensions, the renderer will re-create the buffers at the new size. The reason this was done was so that the engine can render to buffers bigger than the desktop resolution.

[macklebee]

yeah... that appears to be it. but since we cant swap to a smaller buffer now to be painted onto our screen, the fps drops 100+fps instead of ~10fps...

[Marleys Ghost]

[macklebee]

so now if anyone wants to create their own buffers in lua it has to match the framework buffer dimensions? seems like a big waste of resources just so someone can take a screenshot for a 3d game...

[Josh]

What was happening before is you were doing all these expensive renders on buffers the size of the window, and then downsampling them onto your small buffer. I think the way this should be done from the beginning is to perform a simple render for your CCTV pass. It's not worth having all those post effects just for a little screen that will probably have some television noise effect.

 

To continue as you were, use a buffer the size of the graphics window. This is not an efficient approach, but it's not much more inefficient than what you were doing before.

[macklebee]

hmmm... well Marleys tests appear to show about the same fps drop, but for some reason i still have a large drop... so there is probably something still that needs to be fixed in my current version... ive changed so much while pulling my hair out trying to figure out what the heck happened...

 

well, i am experimenting with just using renderworld() at the moment and its not too bad... just need to get the other framework cameras set to the cctv camera... just unfortunately do not get the nice framework effects on the screen as well...

[AggrorJorn]

Does anybody else have water problems? The waterplance renders white, while underwater everything is okay

[AggrorJorn]

try CTRL+SHIFT+Right/Left-click.. at least thats what is working for me... that and you need a terrain

You do not perse need terrain. You can copy the selected without the terrain but only if the picked location is inside the selection. But indeed if you use terrain, you can place it every where you want.