Josh Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Does Windows 10 still support CHM files by default, without installing anything special? Are these even used anymore? Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiaf Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Yes i can still open chm files with nothing installed tried some files from Program Files. I didnt seen/use chm files in long time but seem still supported like some form of offline documentation. Dont like chm, pdf files are also supported. Quote I made this with Leadwerks/UAK: Structura | Stacky Desktop Edition Website: Binary Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einlander Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 ThStill supported some things may have changed over time though. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms728460(v=vs.85).aspx https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/917607/error-opening-help-in-windows-based-programs-feature-not-included-or-help-not-supported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Here is a quick test. Leadwerks Game Engine.zip 1 Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 I figured out how to add video, and the HTMLHelp API has some useful features: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms670172(v=vs.85).aspx I think moving all documentation into HelpNDoc for offline and online documentation is likely in the future. 2 Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychoanima Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 It's opening on my Windows 10 pro, but all pages are blank. To make them visible I need to right click on chm, select properties and to tick "Unblock". Then everything is visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 That's because it's downloaded from the net and Windows is blocking it automatically. It would not happen if distributed in Steam. This is the contents I want. It's a near-linear list with more game templates added. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyj Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Love the API reference! I like to develop when I travel and WIFI is not always a guarantee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper2259 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 yepp i agree this will be great, i had a 2 week internet outage at one point and using leadwerks was pretty much unuseable except for the simple stuff i could remember. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 We're going to do this in the following stages: All tutorials copied to HelpNDoc, tutorials link above will point to exported HTML files uploaded on server, editor tutorials help link pointed at new URL. API Reference added to HelpNDoc and added to same URL. Offline help made available in CHM on Windows and local HTML files on Linux / Mac. Maybe a printed version will be made available for sale. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiaf Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Yes printed version I want to suggest mobi version, for people reading on kindle. Quote I made this with Leadwerks/UAK: Structura | Stacky Desktop Edition Website: Binary Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtom Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Really like the chm format/layout. Very fast to browse and find what you are looking for. Quote Check out my games: One More Day / Halloween Pumpkin Run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Here we go: http://learn.leadwerks.com 2 Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggrorJorn Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdgunn Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Great! I would hope it was super accessible so you can highlight a keyword or method in IDE, hit F1 (or whatever), and it will take you to exactly the right place. If you're looking at CHM then probably yes? I personally do still use the CHM files in some software I have and certainly have occasions when I'm cursing a lack of internet for access to online docs. As it seems you are thinking of both online and off then if they can be output from a single source so it's not a nightmare managing it (at least keeping it synched). Here is my approach to finding online documentation in the absence of a good F1 on keyword assistance.... 1) Go to root API web site - should be simple but people (like me?) are stupid and lazy and I'll forget the quickest way in the IDE and drop back to some habitual method to get there instead. a) bring up desktop brower b) click on address bar c) type the FULL url in and do a GOOGLE(!) search d) select either leadwerks main site or API site if you see it. e) find yourself on the wrong page so do several more clicks and end up at the API.... 2) Hit search tab 3) Type your search term 4) Hit Enter 5) Read the results 6) Try to determine which one is probably the right one (sometimes) 7) Click the link 8) Finally read the item Exaggeration of course but to be honest I probably do LITERALLY ALL OF THE TIME Should be 1) Double click method to highlight 2) Hit F1 3) Read 100% correct item for what you were on. I've used other software (similar to leadwerks that worked well this way). Could be some downside? I didn't see any at the time. Nice to see things moving forwards in this area. I suppose we just need to make sure the examples are good as they were before and maybe even more of them with feedback from users (comments etc.). Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 I think there is a way to open a CHM to a search term. 1 Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 This is what I want the organization to look like. There's just enough nesting to keep things oragnized, but it's still very easy to find your way around. There's no ambiguity on what you are supposed to read. The API reference is an alphabetical list of classes. This could also be easily split up into a six week course. 1 Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Direct link to topic: http://learn.leadwerks.com?ModelsandAnimation.html Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Also added an additional "Script Reference" section for explaining how the default scripts work and all their settings. This is going to be a nightmare to complete, but the results will be really good. 2 Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggrorJorn Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Also added an additional "Script Reference" section for explaining how the default scripts work and all their settings. This is going to be a nightmare to complete, but the results will be really good. But once you have this, documentation has been improved quite a bit. Great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpete Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 works fine, way better than having to go online and read a web page help file. Shame Microsoft dumped this idea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulB Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Microsoft Help/CHM is certainly still supported--I'm a tech writer and my firm is still using this format. In its defence, it integrates with Visual Studio for context-sensitive help, it works offline and everything is packaged into a single file. But there's really no good reason to continue with it--even if your criteria is offline support, you can create something far more sophisticated with HTML 5 and JavaScript. Programs like Jekyll or Hugo make this relatively straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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