Flexman Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 While looking at ways of extending the visible horizon by layering the scene I thought about "Imposters". Something used in rendering space scenes and also the "Infinity - The Quest for Earth" project. I remember an article on Gamasutra - Dynamic 2D Imposters. Then I saw this ... Patenstorm - Dynamic 2D Imposters from Microsoft So, am I to take it that rendering 3D elements to billboards is covered by a patent? Any rational thoughts once the red-haze has subsided? Someone please pinch me and tell me it doesn't apply. Quote 6600 2.4G / GTX 460 280.26 / 4GB Windows 7 Author: GROME Terrain Modeling for Unity, UDK, Ogre3D from PackT Tricubic Studios Ltd. ~ Combat Helo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I don't think Microsoft can patent lies. The patent is a lie, because it claims that they invented 3D sprites, although 3D sprites were invented by someone else 10-20 years earlier, and used in all 3D games before 3D polygon games existed. It makes also no difference if you create the sprites manually or procedurally from 3D meshes. The result is the same. And the invention of making 2D images from 3D meshes was also invented long before that, for example the Print Screen key does just that. Actually it seems Microsoft stole the idea of procedurally generated 3D sprites from Oblivion, which was released 8 days earlier than their patent claim, on March 20, 2006: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_(computer_graphics)#Move_to_3D So basically Microsoft could be charged of 2 crimes here: 1) stealing the idea from Bethesta 2) illegally claiming a patent Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Ha, let's see them enforce that. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopino Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Patents are a joke (mostly). Some Australian managed to patent the wheel a couple of years back: http://www.ipmenu.com/archive/AUI_2001100012.pdf Software patents are even worse, like Amazon's one-click patent, as if they "invented" some kind of smart new system. Patents can only be useful when not easily granted by total idiots. Quote desktop: Quad core Q6600 + 4GB + ATI HD4890 + XP laptop: Dual core T6400 + 4 GB + NVidia 9600M GT + Vista 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 If the greedy lawyers come after me, I'll move to New Zealand. New Zealand says no to software patents http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/government-tech-policy/40451-new-zealand-says-no-to-software-patents Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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