nww100 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hi developers Do you plan to support Linux and Mac, esp. Linux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Mac is working with the beta right now: http://www.leadwerks.com/werkspace/blog/1/entry-919-getting-fun-now/ Linux may be supported in the future. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nww100 Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Mac is working with the beta right now: http://www.leadwerks...etting-fun-now/ Linux may be supported in the future. Thanks, I tried to install the engine in linux, using wine. As a result Engine.exe has started without any problems: But the Editor.exe, unfortunately - crash Full log from the console: nww@nww:~$ wine '/home/nww/.wine/drive_c/Leadwerks Engine SDK/Editor.exe' fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" (6.0.0.0) fixme:ole:CoInitializeSecurity ((nil),-1,(nil),(nil),0,3,(nil),0,(nil)) - stub! fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x13b2d0, L"ROOT\\CIMV2", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000000, (null), (nil), 0x176e9f4) fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl returning zero-filled buffer for IOCTL_VOLUME_GET_VOLUME_DISK_EXTENTS fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl Unsupported ioctl 74080 (device=7 access=1 func=20 method=0) fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x13c6a0, L"ROOT\\CIMv2", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000000, (null), (nil), 0x1b6e9fc) fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl returning zero-filled buffer for IOCTL_VOLUME_GET_VOLUME_DISK_EXTENTS fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl Unsupported ioctl 74080 (device=7 access=1 func=20 method=0) fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x13c6a0, L"ROOT\\CIMv2", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000000, (null), (nil), 0x176e9fc) fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl returning zero-filled buffer for IOCTL_VOLUME_GET_VOLUME_DISK_EXTENTS fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl Unsupported ioctl 74080 (device=7 access=1 func=20 method=0) fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x13c6a0, L"ROOT\\CIMv2", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000000, (null), (nil), 0x1b6e9fc) fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl returning zero-filled buffer for IOCTL_VOLUME_GET_VOLUME_DISK_EXTENTS fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl Unsupported ioctl 74080 (device=7 access=1 func=20 method=0) fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x13c6a0, L"ROOT\\CIMv2", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000000, (null), (nil), 0x176e9fc) fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl returning zero-filled buffer for IOCTL_VOLUME_GET_VOLUME_DISK_EXTENTS fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl Unsupported ioctl 74080 (device=7 access=1 func=20 method=0) fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x13c6f0, L"ROOT\\CIMv2", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000000, (null), (nil), 0x1b6e9fc) fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x13c6f0, L"ROOT\\WMI", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000000, (null), (nil), 0x176e9f4) fixme:reg:RegSetKeySecurity :(0x64,4,0x123ca9c): stub fixme:richedit:ITextDocument_fnRange stub 0x2493338 fixme:richedit:ITextDocument_fnFreeze stub 0x2493338 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 If we support Linux, it will be a native build, not an emulation. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 If we support Linux, it will be a native build, not an emulation. +10 Quote Windows 7 Professional 64 bit, 16 gigs ram, 3.30GHz Quad Core, GeForce GTX 460 one gig, Leadwerks 2.5, Blender 2.62, Photoshop CS3, UU3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nww100 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Josh, how many necessary collect finance, to stimulate develop Linux version (question from russian community http://linux.org.ru)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I'm praying for Linux support. As a primary Linux user I would prefer to develop on my Linux machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Josh, how many necessary collect finance, to stimulate develop Linux version (question from russian community http://linux.org.ru)? Porting the engine to Linux should be easy. It already runs on four operating systems, so adding one more at this point is not hard. Porting the editor is more difficult, because there's a lot of GUI stuff that can go wrong. We use a cross-platform GUI library that abstracts the OS-specific stuff, but I have made so many modifications, that I have no idea what will happen when we try to run it on Linux. In the U.S., the average programmer's salary is around $50,000: http://www1.salary.c...r-I-Salary.html I estimate it would take six months to have a Linux version ready. According to the figure above, that's going to cost us about $25,000. Then you figure in the cost of ongoing support, which I am going to say is equal to one half-time worker, or an additional $25,000 annually. So just to break even, my cost is around $50,000 to implement the Linux version and provide support for one year. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 If we support Linux, it will be a native build, not an emulation. Strictly speaking, wine isn't an emulator. (Despite the urban legend, wine does not stand for "Wine isn't an emulator". Since you'd get stuck in an infinite recursion if you attempted to resolve the letters to words) An interpreter would be a more accurate description, although I believe that's not technically accurate either. Quote LE Version: 2.50 (Eventually) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knocks Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Its great to see all the support for linux that's been popping up recently Quote My first Adobe purchase was Photoshop 2.0, CS6 was my last! < = > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 If I were to just compile the engine itself for Linux, that's quite a bit simpler. But we can have the editor itself running in Linux, using the native GUI on that distro. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZioRed Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Mac is working with the beta right now: http://www.leadwerks...etting-fun-now/ Is it reasonable to expect a beta release (at least for LE2 customers) before the end of the current year? Since few months ago I switched to iMac platform (yes, sad but true I'm starting to love OSX at least as much as Windows that is turned off from that age, and 80% of my current jobs are for iOS and [very] little Android) I'm more excited to try something on this (to me) new platform besides the game engine I'm using at this very moment. Quote ?? FRANCESCO CROCETTI ?? http://skaredcreations.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Is it reasonable to expect a beta release (at least for LE2 customers) before the end of the current year? Yes, certainly. 1 Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 So now it's 'this year' and not 'this summer'? Quote Windows 7 Professional 64 bit, 16 gigs ram, 3.30GHz Quad Core, GeForce GTX 460 one gig, Leadwerks 2.5, Blender 2.62, Photoshop CS3, UU3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I don't know. Any prediction I make is me pulling a date out of thin air. I don't know how long this takes until after I do it. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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